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Friday, August 28, 2015

Bazi secrets. (Part 2)

Yong Shen, the useful god.

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Bazi secrets. (Part 2)

Who do you believe?

What is actually the Yong Shen?
The question in every Bazi enthusiasts' mind.
Without having to turn around in circles. 















Master Shen’s method based on ZPZQ:

·        八字用神,
To locate the Yong Shen for Bazi.
·        专求月令,
Should focused on the Month Commander.
·        以日干配月令地支,
·        Determine from the DM matching the Month Earthly Branch.
Master Shen proposed a system to identify Yong Shen based on Chart Structure.
Comment: After testing this method for a few years, I don’t feel this is a solid method. There are many parts which does not tally. I was also told that to understand this method properly it is necessary to fully grasp the meaning of the Hetu but was not given the methodology.

The Modern Method:

·      Balancing the chart - 扶抑
The modern method of balancing the DM:
·       Support the DM when the DM is weak;
·       Diminish the DM when the DM is strong;
·       The opposite for Extreme Chart.
Comment: This is probably the worst and most unreliable. Anyone still using this method is only kidding themselves.

Method based on Nature.

Adjust the temperature - 调候
This is a very very important consideration in Bazi analysis.
It is like having a country with an Emperor and Prime Minister but the country is in draught. Even with a good Prime Minister it is still of no use. There is no food to feed the nation.
This is always the most important factor.
When this is the case, a new Prime Minister is required. Just for temperature correction. Even if it is not good for the Emperor.
Comment: This is still an important and valid consideration.

Method based on Shen Sha.

Shen Sha Yong Shen.
There are many people who says Shen Sha is rubbish.
Shen Sha Yong Shen is very important.
It is similar to the Temperature Yong Shen.
Even with a chart which is not establish there are many times when the DM is actually doing quite well just with the support of Good Shen Sha.
Similarly an established chart can be destabilized by an inauspicious Shen Sha.
Comment: In my opinion, this is still a very good method to have on top.

The Pure Five Elements method.

This is a method where the Yong Shen, Useful god can be easily located.
It is almost similar to how the “Blindman Method” can determine the Yong Shen so easily without having to refer to too many things or formula, without the involvement of 10 gods.
It is purely using 5 elements based on the Hetu.
It is clearly divided into Yong Shen for HS and Yong Shen for EB which are not the same.
It is how many charts can be clearly explained.
 

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

How to determine Yong Shen under Pure Elements method?

Jhon Marshal said...

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IG said...

Thank you! I also noticed that some methods contain internal contradictions.

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