三刑
《阴符经》曰:恩生于害,害生于恩;
三刑生于二合,亦如六害生于六合之义。
如申子辰三合加寅卯辰三位,
则申刑寅,子刑卯,辰见辰自刑;
寅午戌加巳午未,则寅巳,午见午自刑,戌刑未;
巳酉丑加申酉戌,则巳刑申,酉见酉自刑,丑刑戌;
亥卯未加亥子丑,则亥见亥自刑,卯刑子,未刑丑。
合中生刑,犹人夫妇相合而反致刑伤。
造化人事,共理一而巳矣。
或曰:三刑之法,以数起之。
皇极中天,十为煞数,
积数至十则悉空其数,
天道恶盈满则覆。
故数自卯顺至子,子逆至卯,极十数而为无礼之刑;
无礼之刑 Uncivilized punishment
寅逆至巳,巳逆至申,极十数而为无恩之刑;
无恩之刑 Ungrateful punishment
丑顺至戌,戌顺至未,极十数而为恃势之刑。
恃势之刑 Rely upon power punishment
七则冲,十则刑,六则合,一理之自然也。
7
for clash, 10 for punishment, 6 for combination, the method for deriving the
formula.
寅巳申何以谓之无恩?
Yin Si Shen – why ungrateful?
盖寅中有甲木刑巳中戊土,戊以癸水相合为要,则癸水者,甲木之母也;
Jia inside Yin punish the Wu inside Si,
Wu is the 6 combination partner of Gui,
Gui is the mother of Jia,
戊土既为癸水之夫,乃甲之父也,彼父而我刑之,恩斯忘矣。
Wu being the
partner of Gui represent the
husband, also the father of Jia, the father being
punished, representing ungratefulness (forgot the kindness).
Yin Si
Jia Ke Wu
Wu Gui
combo, Gui
is Jia wood mother/resource.
Wu earth is Gui’s husband, Jia’s
father, being Ke by Father Jia,
forgot about the kindness.
巳中之丙刑申中之庚,申中之庚刑寅中之甲,准此同义。
Si Shen Yin
Bing
Ke
Geng Ke Jia
又云:寅有生火,刑巳上生金;巳上寄生之土,刑申上长生之水;申中生水,刑寅中生火。
Yin produce
fire to punish the metal produce by Si (Si being chang
sheng for Geng), Si producing earth to punish the chang sheng water produced by Shen
(Shen being chang sheng for
Ren), water produced by shen
punished the fire produced by Yin (Yin being chang
sheng for Bing).
不恤所生,遥相克制,故曰无恩。
Without
considering who are the parents, control/restrain from a distant, thus
ungrateful.
生旺主人持重少语,寡欲无情,多招失义忘恩之扰;
For
prosperous DM, few words, ruthless, in most cases ungrateful. (forget about the kindness)
死绝则面誉背毁,忘恩失义。
Death and Jue position, denotes praise from the front, defame from
the back, ungrateful behavior. (forgot about the
kindness)
入贵格则惨虐好杀,好立功业;
A noble
chart indicates a miserable, oppressive, tyrannical and aggressive personality
who can attain outstanding achievement.
入贱格则言行乖越,贪吝无厌。
A low grade
chart indicates a well behave person, stingy, corrupt and greedy personality.
妇人得之,多产血损胎之灾。
For women, have a higher chance of problems related to giving
birth.
With Yin and Si, must check the HS for fire,
When the HS has fire, the Yin will support the Si.
The earth produced by Si will ke/control
the water produced by Geng.
With Si and Shen, must check HS for
water.
When the HS has water, the water will support the Yin wood.
The fire produced by Yin will ke/control
the metal produced by Si.
There must be conditions when this punishment is bad and when this
punishment is good.
Cant just says Yin Si Shen is bad news.
Here is what the book says which i think makes a lot of sense.
Yin Si is a punishment.
What are the condition?
The HS must have Bing or Ding for a fire prosperous situation.
There must be no Wu Ji earth in the HS to reduce the fire.
Or the Wu Ji earth's Qi must not be strong enough to challenge the fire Qi.
The Yin will then support the Si fire to create a strong fire environment.
With a very strong fire environment, the Shen Metal will be punished.
Thats is why it is called punishment.
If you refer to San Ming Tung Hui,
It is saying,
盖寅中有甲木刑巳中戊土,戊以癸水相 合为要,则癸水者,甲木之母也;
戊土既为癸水之夫,乃甲之父也,彼父而我刑之,恩斯忘矣。
In the Yin there is Jia wood which punish the Wu earth in the Si fire.
As a result it hinders the combination of Wu Gui.
Gui is the mother of Jia.
Wu earth is the husband of Gui.
Jia being the son is the punisher.
Thats why it is called ungrateful punishment.
When there is no fire in the HS, the Shen metal is not being punished.
As a result the punishment does not apply.
The same logic has to be applied when Yin and Shen is taken into consideration.
Si Shen is a water combo.
When the HS has Ren and Gui to facilitate the water combo.
The result is an auspicious formation which supports the Yin.
Water being the resource.
Cant just says Yin Si Shen is bad news.
Here is what the book says which i think makes a lot of sense.
Yin Si is a punishment.
What are the condition?
The HS must have Bing or Ding for a fire prosperous situation.
There must be no Wu Ji earth in the HS to reduce the fire.
Or the Wu Ji earth's Qi must not be strong enough to challenge the fire Qi.
The Yin will then support the Si fire to create a strong fire environment.
With a very strong fire environment, the Shen Metal will be punished.
Thats is why it is called punishment.
If you refer to San Ming Tung Hui,
It is saying,
盖寅中有甲木刑巳中戊土,戊以癸水相 合为要,则癸水者,甲木之母也;
戊土既为癸水之夫,乃甲之父也,彼父而我刑之,恩斯忘矣。
In the Yin there is Jia wood which punish the Wu earth in the Si fire.
As a result it hinders the combination of Wu Gui.
Gui is the mother of Jia.
Wu earth is the husband of Gui.
Jia being the son is the punisher.
Thats why it is called ungrateful punishment.
When there is no fire in the HS, the Shen metal is not being punished.
As a result the punishment does not apply.
The same logic has to be applied when Yin and Shen is taken into consideration.
Si Shen is a water combo.
When the HS has Ren and Gui to facilitate the water combo.
The result is an auspicious formation which supports the Yin.
Water being the resource.
When the Yin is strong it will produce fire which in turn will
damage the Geng produced by Si.
A strong Yin would also ke/control the Shen.
So even though Shen
helpd Yin through combining with Si to produce water
to nourish Yin wood.
The Yin directly attacks Shen and
indirectly attacks the Shen produced by Si.
When there are no water in the HS, the Geng will clash the Yin wood.
The SI fire will burn the Yin wood.
And the Si is a destruction with Yin.
So it is a triple destruction to the Yin wood.
Is it bad??????
Is the Yin wood favorable or unfavorable????
If unfavorable, it might be a good thing.
So Yin Si Shen is not always bad.
Similarly Chou Xu Wei must be analyze in detail.
To understand the meaning of each of the clashes and effect.
Chou Xu Wei is so deep.
Reason being we are talking about tomb and store.
The concept of tomb and store is already a most difficult concept.
On top of that we r mixing clashes in the equation.
When u clash a store or tomb, what is the outcome.
Is the store full or empty.
The next thing is the surplus Qi from the left over season.
When there are no water in the HS, the Geng will clash the Yin wood.
The SI fire will burn the Yin wood.
And the Si is a destruction with Yin.
So it is a triple destruction to the Yin wood.
Is it bad??????
Is the Yin wood favorable or unfavorable????
If unfavorable, it might be a good thing.
So Yin Si Shen is not always bad.
Similarly Chou Xu Wei must be analyze in detail.
To understand the meaning of each of the clashes and effect.
Chou Xu Wei is so deep.
Reason being we are talking about tomb and store.
The concept of tomb and store is already a most difficult concept.
On top of that we r mixing clashes in the equation.
When u clash a store or tomb, what is the outcome.
Is the store full or empty.
The next thing is the surplus Qi from the left over season.
The most interesting about the 3 punishment is that 3 element
needs to be considered, unlike ZI Mao or the self punishment.
So many books just tell us this with this is a punishment.
Without knowing the reason.
They just says this with this with this is a punishment.
So many books, even Qu Wei and Lu Liang.
Not to mention the even lousier book.
Another thing is the representation of the 10 god.
Who they represent.
So can check who is affected.
So many books just tell us this with this is a punishment.
Without knowing the reason.
They just says this with this with this is a punishment.
So many books, even Qu Wei and Lu Liang.
Not to mention the even lousier book.
Another thing is the representation of the 10 god.
Who they represent.
So can check who is affected.
丑戌未
何以谓之恃势?
Why Chou Xu Wei is called rely upon power
punishment?
盖丑中有旺水,丑乃水中之土,
In the roots of Chou is prosperous water, Chou is considered as wet
earth,
戌中有墓火,丑恃旺水刑戌中之墓火;
In the roots of Xu is fire store, when Chou
is prosperous the prosperous water punish the fire inside the XU store,
戌为六甲之尊,未为六癸之卑,
Xu is the elder in the Liu Jia, Wei
is the younger for liu Gui,
戌恃六甲之尊刑未六癸之卑;
Xu represent Liu Jia
the elder punish Wei Liu Gui the younger,
未有旺土,复恃势刑丑中之旺水。
Wei have prosperous earth, further adding to
punish the prosperous water inside Chou.
又云:未恃丁火之势以刑丑中之金,
Wei with prosperous fire power punish the metal inside Chou,
丑恃旺水之势以刑戌中之火,
Chou with prosperous water power punish the fire inside Xu,
戌恃辛金之势以刑未中之木,故曰恃势。
Xu with prosperous metal power punish
the wood inside Wei,
Therefore representing relying on power to bully.
生旺主人精神意气雄豪,眉粗面阔,以直交人;
死绝刑露瘦小,精神乖佼,是非贱佞,乐祸幸灾。
入贵格则公清平正,人多畏惧;
入贱格则多犯刑书暗昧之灾。妇人得之,妨害孤独。
丑戌未 Chou Xu Wei punishment.
論三刑 三命通会
丑戌未何以谓之恃势?
Why Chou Xu Wei is called rely upon power
punishment?
盖丑中有旺水,丑乃水中之土,
In the roots of Chou is prosperous water, Chou is considered as wet
earth,
戌中有墓火,丑恃旺水刑戌中之墓火;
In the roots of Xu is fire store, when Chou
is prosperous the prosperous water punish the fire inside the XU store,
戌为六甲之尊,未为六癸之卑,
Xu is the elder in the Liu Jia, Wei
is the youger for liu Gui,
戌恃六甲之尊刑未六癸之卑;
Xu represent Liu Jia
the elder punish Wei Liu Gui the younger,
未有旺土,复恃势刑丑中之旺水。
Wei have prosperous earth, further adding to
punish the prosperous water inside Chou.
又云:未恃丁火之势以刑丑中之金,
Wei with prosperous fire power punish the metal inside Chou,
丑恃旺水之势以刑戌中之火,
Chou with prosperous water power punish the fire inside Xu,
戌恃辛金之势以刑未中之木,故曰恃势。
Xu with prosperous metal power punish
the wood inside Wei,
Therefore representing relying on power to bully.
My interpretation is as follows.
Chou
Gui Xin Ji (HHS)
Gui being
the left over prosperous water Qi from the winter Hai
Zi Chou season.
And it is also the first HHS and it rules for 9 days.
Xin is the store for metal. From the Si You Chou 3 combination.
It rules for the next 3 days.
Ji earth is the main Qi of Chou and it
rules for the next 18 days.
Xu
Xin Ding Wu. (HHS)
Xin being the left over prosperous metal Qi from the Autumn Shen You Xu season.
It is the first HHS and it rules for 9 days.
Ding is the store for fire. From the Yin Wu Xu 3 combination.
It rules for the next 3 days.
Wu earth is the main Qi of Xu and it rules
for the next 18 days.
Wei
Ding Yi Ji. (HHS)
Ding being the left over prosperous fire Qi from the Summer Si Wu Wei
season.
It is the first HHS and it rules for 9 days.
Yi is the store for wood. From the Hai Mao Wei 3 combination.
It rules for the next 3 days.
Ji earth is the main Qi of Wei and it
rules for the next 18 days.
The prosperous Gui
water inside Chou punish the Ding fire store inside Xu.
The prosperous Ding fire inside Wei punish
the Xin metal store inside Chou.
The prosperous Xin metal
inside Xu punish the Yi wood store inside Wei.
As a result the resultant Qi is only earth, the rest are gone or
diminished.
No Fire, Metal, Wood Qi left.
Chou and Wei clash.
The prosperous Gui
water inside Chou clashes with the prosperous Ding fire inside Wei.
The Xin metal store inside Chou clashes with
the Yi wood store inside Wei.
Only earth Qi left and is further strengthen by the clash.
Xu being a fire store further
strengthen the earth in Chou and Wei.
So this punishment can be termed as an over supply of earth.
Conditions making this punishment very very bad.
Wu earth of Ji earth in
the HS.
Fire and Earth in the HS.
Conditions when this effect is reduced.
When water is in the HS, the effect is reduced.
When Yi wood is in the HS, the clash between Chou and Wei will
releases the wood store.
When Xin is in the HS, the clash between the
Chou and Wei will release the metal store.
Depending on the strength and type of the DM, the effect would be
different.
For example for a strong earth DM, the effect would be bad,
For a weak water DM, the effect would be very bad as well,
For a strong water DM, it is probably not a bad thing.
For a strong Jia wood, probably means a lot
of wealth.
Year pillar must be involved.
Says very clearly that the Tai Sui must be involved.
Otherwise no punishment involved.
In this case, i think it means the Year Pillar and not the Annual Pillar.
Even if SMTH described it as such, we would need to check ourself through chart analysis to see if it is true.
Or maybe it can be interpreted in another way.
When Year Pillar involved, it is more serious.
If not less serious.
The last few paragraphs are very important as well i think.
假令癸巳生人得戊寅日,却得庚申时之类。
Gui Si (water Nayin) with Wu Yin (earth Nayin) day and with Geng Shen (wood Nayin) Time Pillar support.
盖癸巳为戊寅所制,得庚申木却制戊寅之土。
Gui Si (water nayin) being controlled by Wu Yin (earth Nayin), obtained Geng Shen (wood Nayin) to control the earth of Wu Yin.
本有刑而却无刑,故曰以煞制煞。
Originally there is a punishment but the punishment is dissolved, reason being sha control sha.
古歌云:“三刑之位带三奇,天乙兼得在日时。
3 punishment with San Qi GuiRen, and also with the appearance of TianYi GuiRen in the Day Pillar.
刑若等分干遇德,官居极品定无亏。”
When punishment meet De (Yuede TianDe GuiRen), Officer palace best quality will be auspicious. (Officer with good quality 12 Qi Phase)
可见三刑要相等,更带三奇、贵人、天德为吉。
When 3 punishment is involved, the chart must be remeasured, with the appearance of San Qi, GuiRen , TianDe which is auspicious.
The involvement of GuiRen will also change the meaning of the punishment.
In this case, i think it means the Year Pillar and not the Annual Pillar.
Even if SMTH described it as such, we would need to check ourself through chart analysis to see if it is true.
Or maybe it can be interpreted in another way.
When Year Pillar involved, it is more serious.
If not less serious.
The last few paragraphs are very important as well i think.
假令癸巳生人得戊寅日,却得庚申时之类。
Gui Si (water Nayin) with Wu Yin (earth Nayin) day and with Geng Shen (wood Nayin) Time Pillar support.
盖癸巳为戊寅所制,得庚申木却制戊寅之土。
Gui Si (water nayin) being controlled by Wu Yin (earth Nayin), obtained Geng Shen (wood Nayin) to control the earth of Wu Yin.
本有刑而却无刑,故曰以煞制煞。
Originally there is a punishment but the punishment is dissolved, reason being sha control sha.
古歌云:“三刑之位带三奇,天乙兼得在日时。
3 punishment with San Qi GuiRen, and also with the appearance of TianYi GuiRen in the Day Pillar.
刑若等分干遇德,官居极品定无亏。”
When punishment meet De (Yuede TianDe GuiRen), Officer palace best quality will be auspicious. (Officer with good quality 12 Qi Phase)
可见三刑要相等,更带三奇、贵人、天德为吉。
When 3 punishment is involved, the chart must be remeasured, with the appearance of San Qi, GuiRen , TianDe which is auspicious.
The involvement of GuiRen will also change the meaning of the punishment.
Punishment able to enter or not.
刑得入、刑不得入
又曰:凡命三刑,全须分刑得入、刑不得入。
To determine 3 punishment, must consider if the punishment can enter or not.
How to determine whether can enter or not???
by the use of the grow ke/control of the Nayin element (hoofie)
Host and guest analysis.
以年为主,月日时为客,如主刑客,刑得入为贵,刑不入即贱;
The year to be considered as the host, the month, day and time as the guest, so if host punish guest, if the punishment can enter (is successful), it is auspicious, but if it cannot enter (not successful), it is inauspicious.
若客来刑主,须是刑不入方为贵格,刑得入者即贱,
If guest punish the host, if cannot enter (not successful) it is considered auspicious, if can enter (successful), it is inauspicious.
What about day and time pillar??
Year is considered the host, month ,day, time is the guest.
What about when year is not involved and we have month and day involved. Are they both guest or the month takes on the host and the day takes on as guest.
假令丑刑戌,看是何丑何戌,如乙丑刑庚戌,是同类相刑,不吉;
If Chou punish Xu, need to look at what Chou and what Xu, if Yi Chou (metal Nayin) punish Geng Xu (metal Nayin), being the same nayin element, it is inauspicious.
刑丙戌壬戌则相生相刑,不以刑论;
Yi Chou (metal Nayin) punish Bing Xu (earth Nayin) and punish Ren Xu (water Nayin) being growing and punishing, not considered as punishment. Earth grow metal, metal grow water. Not considered as punishment.
戊戌甲戌相克相刑。
Yi Chou (metal Nayin) punish Wu Xu (wood Nayin)
Yi Chou (metal Nayin) punish Jia Xu (fire
Nayin)
being
ke/control and punishing, (Metal ke/control
wood and metal ke/control fire)
戊戌刑得入,甲戌不得入;
Wu Xu punishment can enter (is successful), Jia Xu punishment cant enter (is not successful),
Why Wu Xu can enter (successful)?
Yi Chou (metal Nayin) is successful in punishing Wu Xu (wood Nayin) (hoofie)
Why Jia Xu cannot enter (not successful)?
Yi Chou (metal Nayin) is not successful in punishing Jia Xu (fire Nayin) (hoofie)
更看祸福所生之地如何。
Must analyze the (disaster/fortune) birth place to determine the auspiciousness.
What is the birth place?
To analyze the birthplace could be meaning analysis of the DM favorable elements, the strength of the DM, the shen sha of the other pillars based on the DM, the 12 Qi phase of the other pillars based on the DM.
Basically an analysis of the DM.
如戊戌,福聚之地,却乙丑来刑则大吉。
Wu Xu being a lucky place, for Yi Chou to punish is auspicious.
Why is Wu Xu a lucky place?
It says if Wu Xu is a lucky place, could be meaning with auspicious shen sha, with good 12 qi phase and also favorable element. (hoofie)
刑不入福聚之地,不为贵命。
When punishment is not successful in a lucky place, it is not auspicious.
余准此推。
That is the method for analysis.
Wu Xu punishment can enter (is successful), Jia Xu punishment cant enter (is not successful),
Why Wu Xu can enter (successful)?
Yi Chou (metal Nayin) is successful in punishing Wu Xu (wood Nayin) (hoofie)
Why Jia Xu cannot enter (not successful)?
Yi Chou (metal Nayin) is not successful in punishing Jia Xu (fire Nayin) (hoofie)
更看祸福所生之地如何。
Must analyze the (disaster/fortune) birth place to determine the auspiciousness.
What is the birth place?
To analyze the birthplace could be meaning analysis of the DM favorable elements, the strength of the DM, the shen sha of the other pillars based on the DM, the 12 Qi phase of the other pillars based on the DM.
Basically an analysis of the DM.
如戊戌,福聚之地,却乙丑来刑则大吉。
Wu Xu being a lucky place, for Yi Chou to punish is auspicious.
Why is Wu Xu a lucky place?
It says if Wu Xu is a lucky place, could be meaning with auspicious shen sha, with good 12 qi phase and also favorable element. (hoofie)
刑不入福聚之地,不为贵命。
When punishment is not successful in a lucky place, it is not auspicious.
余准此推。
That is the method for analysis.
Paul Volcker
乙 Yi
壬 Ren 戊 Wu 丁 Ding
巳 Si 寅 Yin 申 Shen 卯 Mao
Fire Metal Earth Fire
TianYi YueDe TianYi
Jue Bing Chang Sheng Si
MuYu Bing Bing
First Condition: No Tai Sui Year Pillar Involved.
经云:凡命定其无刑,先论太岁。
To determine whether 3 punishment applies, first discuss the Tai Sui.
盖言人恶见三刑,若月日时带煞而太岁不干预者不论,故曰先论太岁。
Whether 3 punishment is a bad thing, when only the time day and month pillar involved with out the year pillar, it is not considered a 3 punishment, so to determine 3 punishment first look at the year pillar.
巳 Si 寅 Yin 申 Shen 卯 Mao
Fire Metal Earth Fire
TianYi YueDe TianYi
Jue Bing Chang Sheng Si
MuYu Bing Bing
First Condition: No Tai Sui Year Pillar Involved.
经云:凡命定其无刑,先论太岁。
To determine whether 3 punishment applies, first discuss the Tai Sui.
盖言人恶见三刑,若月日时带煞而太岁不干预者不论,故曰先论太岁。
Whether 3 punishment is a bad thing, when only the time day and month pillar involved with out the year pillar, it is not considered a 3 punishment, so to determine 3 punishment first look at the year pillar.
"刑得入" or "刑不得入"
Punishment can enter or not.
There is no need to consider if punishment can enter or not cause it is a "相生相刑" (Xing in growth) type which is "不认为是刑" not considered as Xing.
Nayin Element grow Ke/Control
Wu Shen (earth Nayin) grow Ren Yin (metal Nayin)
Yi Si (fire nayin) ke/control Ren Yin metal Nayin)
The Ren Yin not punish Wu Shen, controlled by the Yi Si.
Sha control Sha condition.
Host guest analysis.
Shen is Host.
Yin is guest.
Wu Shen (earth nayin) is not punishing Ren Yin (metal Nayin)
Host not punishing guest. Inauspicious.
Ren Yin (metal Nayin) also not punishing Wu Shen (earth Nayin) and being controlled by Yi Si (fire Nayin)
Guest not punishing host. Auspicious.
Auspicious place being punished is auspicious.
Ren Yin is auspicious being YueDe GuiRen being punished by Yi Si is auspicious.
GuiRen Involved.
古歌云:“三刑之位带三奇,天乙兼得在日时。
3 punishment with San Qi GuiRen, and also with the appearance of TianYi GuiRen in the Day Pillar.
刑若等分干遇德,官居极品定无亏。”
When punishment meet De (Yuede TianDe GuiRen), Officer palace best quality will be auspicious.
可见三刑要相等,更带三奇、贵人、天德为吉。
When 3 punishment is involved, the chart must be remeasured, with the appearance of San Qi, GuiRen , TianDe which is auspicious.
The involvement of GuiRen will also change the meaning of the punishment.
Host and guest analysis.
以年为主,月日时为客,如主刑客,刑得入为贵,刑不入即贱;
The year to be considered as the host, the month, day and time as the guest, so if host punish guest, if the punishment can enter (is successful), it is auspicious, but if it cannot enter (not successful), it is inauspicious.
若客来刑主,须是刑不入方为贵格,刑得入者即贱,
If guest punish the host, if cannot enter (not successful) it is considered auspicious, if can enter (successful), it is inauspicious.
What about day and time pillar??
Year is considered the host, month ,day, time is the guest.
What about when year is not involved and we have month and day involved. Are they both guest or the month takes on the host and the day takes on as guest.
Why do u use
Yin is 主(DM), Shen is 客???? and not the other way around.
Since month shen should be the host and day Yin should be the guest.
or shen and yin are both guest cause there is no host(year pillar) involved
The year to be considered as the host, the month, day and time as the guest, so if host punish guest, if the punishment can enter (is successful), it is auspicious, but if it cannot enter (not successful), it is inauspicious.
若客来刑主,须是刑不入方为贵格,刑得入者即贱,
If guest punish the host, if cannot enter (not successful) it is considered auspicious, if can enter (successful), it is inauspicious.
What about day and time pillar??
Year is considered the host, month ,day, time is the guest.
What about when year is not involved and we have month and day involved. Are they both guest or the month takes on the host and the day takes on as guest.
Why do u use
Yin is 主(DM), Shen is 客???? and not the other way around.
Since month shen should be the host and day Yin should be the guest.
or shen and yin are both guest cause there is no host(year pillar) involved
Nayin
On the subject of Nayin, we only look at
the elements.
Example water clash with fire, wood clash with metal, and so on.
Metal grows water, water grows wood, wood grows fire and so on.
Do we have to consider the stage of the Nayin element.
Nayin elements have 6 stages of strength.
So when we consider metal clashes with wood, do we need to see what stage the 2 elements.
For example 2nd stage weak metal clash with 5th stage very strong wood.
Is it always metal clashing the wood or is it the other way round.
So when we consider whether punishment can enter or not meaning successful or not
do we need to take the strength of the Nayin into consideration??
Example of the strength of the Nayin elements.
1. 戊子 己丑 霹靂火
• Wu Zi, Ji Chou
• Lightning
2. 丙寅 丁卯 爐中火
• Bing Yin, Ding Mao
• Fire in the Furnace
3. 甲辰 乙已 覆燈火
• Jia Chen, Yi Si
• Fire from the Lamp
4. 戊午 己未 天上火
• Wu Wu, Ji Wei
• Heavenly Fire
5. 丙申 丁酉 山下火
• Bing Shen, Ding You
• Fire from mountain slope
6. 甲戌 乙亥 山頭火
• Jia Xu, Yi Hai
• Fire from Volcano
Example water clash with fire, wood clash with metal, and so on.
Metal grows water, water grows wood, wood grows fire and so on.
Do we have to consider the stage of the Nayin element.
Nayin elements have 6 stages of strength.
So when we consider metal clashes with wood, do we need to see what stage the 2 elements.
For example 2nd stage weak metal clash with 5th stage very strong wood.
Is it always metal clashing the wood or is it the other way round.
So when we consider whether punishment can enter or not meaning successful or not
do we need to take the strength of the Nayin into consideration??
Example of the strength of the Nayin elements.
1. 戊子 己丑 霹靂火
• Wu Zi, Ji Chou
• Lightning
2. 丙寅 丁卯 爐中火
• Bing Yin, Ding Mao
• Fire in the Furnace
3. 甲辰 乙已 覆燈火
• Jia Chen, Yi Si
• Fire from the Lamp
4. 戊午 己未 天上火
• Wu Wu, Ji Wei
• Heavenly Fire
5. 丙申 丁酉 山下火
• Bing Shen, Ding You
• Fire from mountain slope
6. 甲戌 乙亥 山頭火
• Jia Xu, Yi Hai
• Fire from Volcano
Yu Shen Zhao True Script
7.兩分交戰,識取尊卑。
天干尊也,地支卑也,干支,上剋下,則順,下剋上,則逆。
逆者,戰也。即四柱干支,地支不宜剋天干也。
两分交战,识取尊卑。
The heaven stem is known as “ respect-status”, earthly branch is known as “low”, (I guess it said heaven stem is the “heaven will”, and the earthly branch is the “palace/ ground”), (In the interaction) between heaven and stem, when the “top” countering the “lower” (heaven stem countering earthly branch), is to obey (acceptable, favorable), if it is the lower countering the top (earthly branch countering the heaven stem), is the contrary (opposite, unfavorable). Those who contrary, is having a war (when earthly branch countering the heaven stem, is recognized as “fighting” between the heaven stem and earthly branch). Between the heaven stem and earthly branch of four pillar, earthly branch is inappropriate to countering the heaven stem. (Because the heaven stem qi is weaker compared to the earthly branch qi)
The concept of the year being the elder and the time being the younger is illustrated here.
It is auspicious for the year to ke the month which ke the day which ke the time.
It is inauspicious for the time to ke the day which ke the month which ke the year.
The reason when the ke is from the elder to the younger it is showing respect to the elder and it is auspicious and not the other way round.
This principle is applicable in the HS EB as well as the Nayin.
San Ming Tung Hui did not just use Yuan Hai Zi Ping but also uses older book concept.
This concept is about showing respect to the elder. Year being the elder.
If u punish the elder it is not a nice thing.
If the DM is being punished, maybe he needs to be thought a lesson.
The concept of Tai Sui is a very old concept.
Why it is auspicious to punish the year?
It says if unsuccessful it is good.
天干尊也,地支卑也,干支,上剋下,則順,下剋上,則逆。
逆者,戰也。即四柱干支,地支不宜剋天干也。
两分交战,识取尊卑。
The heaven stem is known as “ respect-status”, earthly branch is known as “low”, (I guess it said heaven stem is the “heaven will”, and the earthly branch is the “palace/ ground”), (In the interaction) between heaven and stem, when the “top” countering the “lower” (heaven stem countering earthly branch), is to obey (acceptable, favorable), if it is the lower countering the top (earthly branch countering the heaven stem), is the contrary (opposite, unfavorable). Those who contrary, is having a war (when earthly branch countering the heaven stem, is recognized as “fighting” between the heaven stem and earthly branch). Between the heaven stem and earthly branch of four pillar, earthly branch is inappropriate to countering the heaven stem. (Because the heaven stem qi is weaker compared to the earthly branch qi)
The concept of the year being the elder and the time being the younger is illustrated here.
It is auspicious for the year to ke the month which ke the day which ke the time.
It is inauspicious for the time to ke the day which ke the month which ke the year.
The reason when the ke is from the elder to the younger it is showing respect to the elder and it is auspicious and not the other way round.
This principle is applicable in the HS EB as well as the Nayin.
San Ming Tung Hui did not just use Yuan Hai Zi Ping but also uses older book concept.
This concept is about showing respect to the elder. Year being the elder.
If u punish the elder it is not a nice thing.
If the DM is being punished, maybe he needs to be thought a lesson.
The concept of Tai Sui is a very old concept.
Why it is auspicious to punish the year?
It says if unsuccessful it is good.
George Lucas.
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Jia Wu Ji Jia
Yin Yin Si Shen
Jia Wu Ji Jia
Yin Yin Si Shen
Year Jia Shen (Wu Geng Ren) (Bing) (5th Water Nayin) Wen Chang Yima Kong Wang
Month Ji Si (Geng Bing Wu) (Lin Quan) (3rd Wood Nayin) Shiganlu Wang Shen
Day Wu Yin (Jia Bing Wu) (Chang Sheng) (2nd Earth Nayin) Yin Yang Mix up
Time Jia Yin (Jia Bing Wu) (Chang Sheng) (2nd Water Nayin)
Step1
Yin Yin supporting Si fire to push Shen in a fiery environment. In the month of Si supported by wood resource. Si Shen not combo to water due to the hot temperature.
Punishment apply.
Step 2
Tai Sui being punished.
Tai Sui being punished.
Step 3 - Nayin involved.
Ji Si Wood Nayin punish Jia Shen Water Nayin.
Is it successful. No
This is Guest Month punish Host Year.
Not successful - auspicious.
Ji Si Wood Nayin punish Jia Shen Water Nayin.
Is it successful. No
This is Guest Month punish Host Year.
Not successful - auspicious.
Step 4 - 福聚之地
刑不入福聚之地,不为贵命。
When punishment is not successful in a luck place, it is not auspicious.
When it is not successful in an unlucky place, it is probably auspicious.
Why not a lucky place? cause of Yima Kong Wang which is a bad combination.
刑不入福聚之地,不为贵命。
When punishment is not successful in a luck place, it is not auspicious.
When it is not successful in an unlucky place, it is probably auspicious.
Why not a lucky place? cause of Yima Kong Wang which is a bad combination.
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(刑不入福聚之地,不为贵命
Can this be applied to the year pillar Jia-Shen? What 福 is in this pillar? It has Yima , is in stage of Sickness, and is in Kong Wang. Is this Kong Wang not relieved by Si-Shen He, and his You Luck Pillar also not relieved by the combination with Si to form the Si-You of the Si-You-Chou San He . . .
If his Jia combine with Ji and his Shen combine with Si, is he categorized as "有干支合马,如申子辰四马在寅,甲寅见己亥,合;丙寅见辛亥,合,主官职崇重" from SMTH. He is a Yin-Wu-Xu person whose Yima is Shen and a Wu earth person whose 禄 is Si ?)
Can this be applied to the year pillar Jia-Shen? What 福 is in this pillar? It has Yima , is in stage of Sickness, and is in Kong Wang. Is this Kong Wang not relieved by Si-Shen He, and his You Luck Pillar also not relieved by the combination with Si to form the Si-You of the Si-You-Chou San He . . .
If his Jia combine with Ji and his Shen combine with Si, is he categorized as "有干支合马,如申子辰四马在寅,甲寅见己亥,合;丙寅见辛亥,合,主官职崇重" from SMTH. He is a Yin-Wu-Xu person whose Yima is Shen and a Wu earth person whose 禄 is Si ?)
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(Normally 吉辰 is translated it as auspicious hours, the right
timing for DM.
e.g 丁 fire born in the night time is consider 吉辰
戊戌刑得入,甲戌
不得入;更看祸福所生之地如何。如戊戌,福聚之地
福聚之地 A place where good fortune is assemble.
There are only 4 pillars that match 福聚之地.
魁罡聚众有四日:庚辰、壬辰、戊戌、庚戌
戊戌刑得入,甲戌
不得入;更看祸福所生之地如何。如戊戌,福聚之地
福聚之地 A place where good fortune is assemble.
There are only 4 pillars that match 福聚之地.
魁罡聚众有四日:庚辰、壬辰、戊戌、庚戌
These are the 4 pillar where good
fortune is assemble; geng chen, ren chen, wu xu,
geng xu.)
What is the meaning of being auspicious due to punishment in this chart?
HS combination
四月节(巳月)
(4th month of snake)
甲己无位
(Jia Ji does not have a position)
EB combination
Si Shen Liu He not transform.
Jia Ji Si Shen both HS and EB combine.
What is the meaning?
However, a near-fatal accident in his souped-up Autobianchi Bianchina on June 12, 1962
1962 Ren Yin year during Xin Wei LP (1961 - 1970)
The early 1970s work as a writer-director that established him as a major figure in Hollywood consists of just three titles, made between 1971 and 1977 -- THX 1138, American Graffiti, Star Wars -- and there was a 22-year hiatus between Star Wars Episode IV and his only other feature-film directing credits, the three Star Wars prequels.
Ren Shen LP (1971 - 1980) (5th metal Nayin)
Over the two decades after the first Star Wars film Lucas worked extensively as a writer and/or producer, including the many Star Wars spinoffs made for film, TV and other media. He acted as Executive Producer for the next two Star Wars films, assigning the direction of The Empire Strikes Back (1980) to Irvin Kershner and Return of the Jedi (1983) to Richard Marquand, while receiving a story credit on the former and sharing a screenwriting credit with Lawrence Kasdan on the latter. Lucas also acted as executive producer and story writer on all four of the Indiana Jones films. Other notable projects as a producer or executive producer in this period include Kurosawa's Kagemusha (1980), Lawrence Kasdan's Body Heat (1981), Jim Henson's Labyrinth (1986), Godfrey Reggio's Powaqqatsi (1986) and the animated film The Land Before Time (1988). There were also some less successful projects, however, including More American Graffiti (1979), the ill-fated Howard the Duck (1986) which was arguably the biggest flop of his career, Willow (1988, which Lucas also wrote) and Coppola's Tucker: The Man and His Dream (1988).
Gui You LP (1981 - 1990) (5th metal Nayin)
Interesting to note Shen You is WU YIN Kong Wang.
He did so well during this 20 years Kong Wang period.
The LP metal Nayin ke the Si wood Nayin. and is successful.
Helping the Year Shen as Host to Ke the Guest Si.
Host is successful to punish the guest. Auspicious.
Or is it due to the Ren and Gui in both the LP helping the Si Shen Liu He to water and feeding the wood dissolving the punishment effect.
子卯 无礼之刑
Uncivilised Punishment.
子卯何以谓之无礼?
Why Zi Mao is called Uncivilised
Punishment.
子属水,卯属木,水能生木,
则子水为母,卯木为子,子母自相刑;
又卯为日门,子为阳之所生,日出于卯,
子卯角立,无钦卑之道,不恤所以相生,
进相刑害,故曰无礼。
又云:子中独用癸水,癸用戊土为夫星而败于卯,
所以子刑卯;
Zi uses Gui water (HHS), Wu earth is Gui
husband and is defeated at Mao, so Zi punish Mao,
卯中独用乙木,乙用庚金为夫星而死于子,
所以卯刑子。
Mao uses Yi
wood (HHS), Geng is Yi
husband and is dead at Zi, so Mao punish Zi.
此二家因夫见刑,女命见之,尤为不良,故曰无礼。
生旺主人威肃,面无和气,气强性暴,太察不容;
死绝则侮慢忽略,狭劣刻剥,少孝悌,害妻子,吴越六亲。
入贵格则多掌兵权,不利近侍;
位居不久;入贱格则悖凶暴,多招刑祸。
自刑 – Self
Punishment
辰午酉亥何以谓之自刑?
谓寅申巳亥有寅巳申互相刑,内有亥无刑;
辰戌丑未有戌丑未互相刑,内有辰无刑;
子午卯酉有子卯互相刑,内有午酉无刑。
是以此四位谓之自刑。
盖无别物相加,乃曰自也。
又云:
辰者水之墓,滔则盈;
午者火之旺,暴则焚;
酉者金之位,刚则缺;
亥者水之生,旺则朽。
各禀已盛太过之气而自致祸,故曰自也。
生旺则沉静内毒,形容劣弱;
死绝则深毒轻忽,察见渊渔,多肢节手足之灾。
入贵格则机变权谋;
入贱格则多忧顽愚,不情自害。
带诸凶煞,非令终也。
妇人主淫荡凶折之灾。
凡见刑不可便以凶论,须看五行中有无吉辰、
旺相、官星、印绶、责神、德福等物,
有此诸吉相扶相助,刑不为害,而反为用;
如无诸吉相助,更带亡劫、天中、羊刃等煞以恶济恶,
祸不可言。
又云:三刑怕金。
《鬼谷遗文》曰:“君子不刑定不发,若居仕路多腾达;
小人到此必为灾,不然也被官鞭挞。”
沈芝云:“自刑带煞不为良,年月刑肤定见伤。
不是狱中憔悴死,便因刀剑刃头亡。”
又云:“带辰午酉亥全,中年丧明。”
又云:“自刑怕火,若中有制,未可便此以论。”
又曰:凡命三刑,全须分刑得入、刑不得入。
以年为主,月日时为客,如主刑客,刑得入为贵,刑不入即贱;
若客来刑主,须是刑不入方为贵格,刑得入者即贱,假令丑刑戌,看是何丑何戌,如乙丑刑庚戌,是同类相刑,不吉;
刑丙戌壬戌则相生相刑,不以刑论;
戊戌甲戌相克相刑。
戊戌刑得入,甲戌不得入;
更看祸福所生之地如何。
如戊戌,福聚之地,却乙丑来刑则大吉。
刑不入福聚之地,不为贵命。
余准此推。
经云:凡命定其无刑,先论太岁。
盖言人恶见三刑,若月日时带煞而太岁不干预者不论,故曰先论太岁。
又云:以煞止煞,多掌兵刑之任。
盖言太岁受刑而别刑若乃制刑太岁者。
假令癸巳生人得戊寅日,却得庚申时之类。
盖癸巳为戊寅所制,得庚申木却制戊寅之土。
本有刑而却无刑,故曰以煞制煞。
古歌云:“三刑之位带三奇,天乙兼得在日时。
刑若等分干遇德,官居极品定无亏。”
可见三刑要相等,更带三奇、贵人、天德为吉。
論三刑 三命通会
寅巳申何以谓之无恩?
盖寅中有甲木刑巳中戊土,戊以癸水相合为要,则癸水者,甲木之母也;
戊土既为癸水之夫,乃甲之父也,彼父而我刑之,恩斯忘矣。
Yin Si
Jia Ke Wu
Wu Gui combo, Gui is Jia wood mother/resource.
Wu earth is Gui’s husband, Father Wu being ke by Son Jia, forgot about the kindness.
巳中之丙刑申中之庚,申中之庚刑寅中之甲,准此同义。
Si Shen Yin
Bing Ke Geng Ke Jia
又云:寅有生火刑巳上生金,巳上寄生之土刑申上长生之水,申中生水刑寅中生火。
不恤所生,遥相克制,故曰无恩。
生旺主人持重少语,寡欲无情,多招失义忘恩之扰;
死绝则面誉背毁,忘恩失义。
入贵格则惨虐好杀,好立功业;
入贱格则言行乖越,贪吝无厌。
妇人得之,多产血损胎之灾。
There is only one book that tries to explain Yin Si Shen.
And this is referring to all the classic texts, Lu Liang's book, Qu Wei's book and other books that i have.
There must be conditions when this punishment is bad and when this punishment is good.
Cant just says Yin Si Shen is bad news.
Here is what the book says which i think makes a lot of sense.
Yin Si is a punishment.
What r the condition?
The HS must have Bing or Ding for a fire prosperous situation.
There must be no Wu Ji earh in the HS to reduce the fire.
Or the Wu Ji earth's Qi must not be strong enuf to challenge the fire Qi.
The Yin will then support the Si fire to create a strong fire environment.
With a very strong fire environment, the Shen Metal will be punished.
Thats is why it is called punishment.
If u refer to San Ming Tung Hui,
It is saying,
盖寅中有甲木刑巳中戊土,戊以癸水相合为要,则癸水者,甲木之母也;
戊土既为癸水之夫,乃甲之父也,彼父而我刑之,恩斯忘矣。
In the Yin there is Jia wood which punish the Wu earth in the Si fire.
As a result it hinders the combination of Wu Gui.
Gui is the mother of Jia.
Wu earth is the husband of Gui.
Jia being the son is the punisher.
Thats why it is called ungrateful punishment.
When there is no fire in the HS, the Shen metal is not being punished.
As a result the punishment does not apply.
The same logic has to be applied when Yin and Shen is taken into consideration.
Si Shen is a water combo.
When the HS has Ren and Gui to facilitate the water combo.
The result is an auspicious formation which supports the YIN.
Water being the resource
When there are no water in the HS, the Geng will clash the Yin wood.
The SI fire will burn the Yin wood.
And the Si is a destruction with Yin.
So it is a triple destruction to the Yin wood.
Is it bad??????
Is the Yin wood favorable or unfavorable????
If unfavorable, it might be a good thing.
So Yin Si Shen is not always bad.
Similarly Chou Xu Wei must be analyze in detail.
To understand the meaning of each of the clashes and effect.
Chou Xu Wei is so deep.
Reason being we r talking about tomb and store.
The concept of tomb and store is already a most difficult concept.
On top of that we r mixing clashes in the equation.
When u clash a store or tomb, what is the outcome.
Is the store full or empty.
The next thing is the surplus Qi from the left over season.
Who is qualified to explain thjs concept??
BZSM and Relic.
Maybe if they explain to us we would still not understand.
The most interesting about the 3 punishment is that 3 element needs to be considered, unlike ZI Mao or the self punishment.
So many books just tell u this with this is a punishment.
Without knowing the reason.
They just says this with this with this is a punishment.
So many books, even Qu Wei and Lu Liang.
Mot to mentioned the even lousier book.
I have used this theory to check chart to confirm this punishment.
This year is a fantastic year cause of the YIN year.
Not all Yin Si Shen are having a bad time.
Another thing is the representation of the 10 god.
Who they represent.
So can check who is affected.
4 comments:
thank you very much again :)
what do you think about my chart have mao zi punishment
bing gui ren ding
chen si zi mao
10 december 1987 8:10 am
it`s your blog George tan?
Xu wei Chou punishment tomb and storage is interesting in details.
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