Strength of HS.
In the modern Bazi system of analyzing strength of the HS, the season is always treated as the most important criteria. There are several methods employed by various masters/schools. It is one of the most fascinating subject in Bazi.
Month Commander.
得令
月令旺相.
The DM born
in the month commander.
For Jia and
Yi born in Yin and Mao month.
For Bing and
Ding born in Si and Wu month.
For Geng and
Xin born in Shen and You month.
For Ren and
Gui born in Hai and Zi month.
This method
only focus on the two most prosperous months. Other months are not considered.
This method
places the highest importance to the month.
Seasonal Stregth.
Based on the season with a grading system. 衰旺
Based on the month/season, there are 5
different strength categories:
旺 Prosperous
相 Supportive
休 Rest
囚 In Prison
死 Death
Spring
Yin Mao Month
Wood 旺 Prosperous
Fire 相 Supportive
Water 休 Rest
Metal 囚 In Prison
Earth 死 Death
Summer
Si Wu Month
Fire 旺 Prosperous
Earth 相 Supportive
Wood 休 Rest
Water 囚 In Prison
Metal 死 Death
Autumn
Shen You Month
Metal 旺 Prosperous
Water 相 Supportive
Earth 休 Rest
Fire 囚 In Prison
Wood 死 Death
Winter
Hai Zi Month
Water 旺 Prosperous
Wood 相 Supportive
Metal 休 Rest
Earth 囚 In Prison
Fire 死 Death
Earth Month
Earth 旺 Prosperous
Metal 相 Supportive
Fire 休 Rest
Wood 囚 In Prison
Water 死 Death
Dominant Hidden Heavenly Stem.
The strength of the DHHS based on the day of
the month.
Yuan Hai ZiPing
HS & EB hidden secret poem
《论 天 干 地 支 暗 藏 总 诀》
Yin Tiger
寅宫甲木兼丙戊,
Yin tiger palace Jia wood at the same
time with Bing fire and Wu earth,
立春念三丙火用,餘日甲木旺提纲。
Lichun 4th
February to 5th March, remember to use 3 Bing fire, remaining days
Jia wood prosperous and in command,
Mao Rabbit
卯宫乙木独相逢。
Mao rabbit palace Yi wood alone come
across,
惊蛰乙木未用事;春分乙未正相当。
JingZhe
6th to 20th March, Yi wood not yet useful,
ChunFen
Spring Equinox 21st March to 4th April, Yi wood is
central,
6th
to 20th March – 15 days – Jia Wood
21st
March to 4th April – 15 days - Yi Wood
Chen Dragon
辰藏乙戊三分癸,
Chen dragon hides Yi wood, Wu earth
with 3 parts Gui,
清明乙木十日管,后来八日癸水洋;
QingMing
5th to 19th April, Yi wood governs for the first 10 days,
later 8 days rules by Gui water,
穀雨前三戊土盛,其中土旺要消详。
GuYu 20th
April to 4th May, first 3 Wu earth flourish, within earth strength
need detailed analysis.
This method treats the DHHS as the most
important rather than all the HHS as carrying the same weight.
Master Shen’s method.
Master Shen in ZPZQ explained that the season is not the most important
criteria. It is in fact the root which should be
considered when analyzing the strength of the HS, not the season.
The other important factor is the location of
the root. In ZPZQ’s method, the root can be in any of the pillar. There is no
need to consider the distant of the root unlike the modern system.
It also relies heavily on the 12 Chang Sheng
Qi phase method to determine the strength of the root.
12 Chang Sheng Qi phase strength:
Strong root: 长生禄旺
Chang Sheng, Di Wang, Guan Dai, Lin Guan
(also called Jianlu).
Strength based on the Earth EB.
The strength of the Tomb/Storehouse are also
important consideration.
These are the four earth EB, Chen, Xu, Chou,
Wei.
Chen being the water tomb, Xu being the fire
tomb, Chou being the metal tomb and Wei being the wood tomb.
Inside the tomb EB, there are three Hidden Heavenly
Stem, namely the Earth HHS, the Tomb HHS and the Left over Qi HHS.
For example inside Chen there is Wu, Yi and
Gui. Gui being the tomb HHS, Yi being the left over Qi from Spring.
The reason the roots are considered the most
important factors in Bazi analysis is the emphasis based on the 10 god
protruded in the HS.
When the HS are being attacked, it is stated that with root it is able to withstand the onslaught. Without root it will be damaged easily.
When the HS are being attacked, it is stated that with root it is able to withstand the onslaught. Without root it will be damaged easily.
Zi Ping Zheng Qing
六、论十干得时不旺失时不弱
Chapter 6: The Strength of Heavenly Stems.
Discussing the 10 HS: obtaining the season
but not prosperous and losing the season but not weak.
书云:得时俱为旺论,
Classic: Obtaining the time/season is considered
prosperous.
失时便作衰看。
Out of time/season is considered weak.
虽是至理,亦死法也,
Even though there is such a logic, it is a dead method.
然亦可活看。
Should use a dynamic method to observe.
故生月即不值令,而年时如值禄旺,岂便为衰?
If the HS are not in season, but the Year or Hour provides
‘Lu Shen’ or ‘Prosperous’ Qi phase, how can it be
considered as weak?
Comment: Every Pillar can provide the strength to the HS,
not just the month.
秋木虽弱,木根深而木亦强。
Autumn wood even though is considered weak, but with deep
roots the wood is considered as strong.
Other rules for the support from other HS.
得一比肩,不如得支中一墓库,
Obtaining one Bi Jian is not
the as good as having one tomb/store in the EB.
如甲逢未、丙逢戌之类。
Like Jia meeting Wei, Bing
meeting Xu.
乙逢戌、丁逢丑,不作此论,
For Yi meeting Xu, Ding meeting
Chou is not discussed in the same manner.
以戌中无藏木,丑中无藏火也。
The reason being the there is
no wood hidden inside Xu, no fire hidden inside Chou.
得二比肩,不如得一余气,
Obtaining two Bi Jian, is not
as good as having one left over qi.
如乙逢辰、丁逢未之类。
Like Yi meeting Chen, Ding
meeting Wei.
得三比肩,不如得一长生禄刃,
Obtaining three Bi jian, is not
as good as having one Chang Sheng, Lu or Prosperous Qi.
如甲逢亥子寅卯之类。
Like Jia meeting Hai, Zi, Yin,
Mao.
it makes sense cause season is diferente in S Hemisphere.
ReplyDeleteAnd if season is importante then we must bear in mind someone born in Spain in Winter is like being born in Spring in northern europe
ReplyDeleteThe four seasons determine how the environment changes with time in a year. At different places the change is different not only between the two hemispheres. If we replace the names of the seasons by something else without changing the branches for the months, then it will be ok. The month branch does not change based on the latitude. It may be moved forward or backward due to longitude because of the use of solar time.
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ReplyDeleteSeasonal Stregth in the ancient classics refers to cosmical seasons (solar terms of the 24 JieQi), not geographical seasons (spring, autumn, summer, winter). Near the Equator only one season exists - does it mean that Bazi works only with Fire there? Around the artics, forever Winter exists - does it mean that Bazi works only with Water there? How about the rainy seasons, dry seasons etc.? It is unreasonable to consider climatic conditions for 12 Life Stages.
ReplyDeleteWood during Mao Rabbit month will be 旺 Prosperous all over the globe, regardless of hemispheres or other climatic conditions.
However, geographical seasons, local climate may affect this, but that will not change Bazi chart upside down (i.e. Metal will not be prosperous in Mao Rabbit month on the Southern Hemisphere).
Where the local climatic conditions (seasons) are so hot or cold, the qi of the month might be less or more effective than where the seasons are 'normal'. For example in the Southern Hemisphere, the Winter is warmer and is during Fire months (May-June-July), less 'winterish'. During the Water months (Hai-Zi-Chou), there is Summer on the Southern Hemisphere - so Water qi of Hai/Zi/Chou month will be less effective in the birth charts compared to those who were born on Scandinavia. But the Water in the chart will not change into Fire or vice versa...
hi all, i would like to know the strength for earth month is legit? Based on joey yap books there is no earth month, otherwise earth month would all share the same qi? Chen is in spring, wei is in summer, xu in autumn and chou in winter. So which is which?
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ReplyDeleteI follow Master Shen method from Zi Ping Zhen Qing.
故生月即不值令,而年时如值禄旺,岂便为衰?
If the HS are not in season, but the Year or Hour provides ‘Lu Shen’ or ‘Prosperous’ Qi phase, how can it be considered as weak?
Comment: Every Pillar can provide the strength to the HS, not just the month.
The strength of the HS is based on the Qi phase which is the rooting.
The month or the season is not the most important criteria.
The most important is to have strong rooting such as Chang Sheng, Lin Guan Officer or Di Wang Qi phase.
hi
ReplyDeleteMaster Shen method uses the 12 stage Q . For example Ding is ChangSheng at rooster and yet Ding is not rooted since there no ding fire in rooster. so is this ding strong or weak
thank